Showing posts with label Grandchildren sample. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Grandchildren sample. Show all posts

Wednesday, July 22, 2020

CHANGES IN INPUTTING: FOCUS ON TREES INSTEAD OF DATABASE - UPDATED


SUMMARY
As of July 20, 2020, Dora has asked us to change how we collect the data. Finish your current recid the old way and then start the next family with the new instructions below.  Dora now plans to get data from the GEDCOMS and not from the VCC database. Therefore, we will no longer use the obit screen on the VCC database to collect information.  The tree will provide the data.  We are most interested in the following bits of information for the grands and their parents:

·         Date of birth (Try to include a month with the year when possible)
·         Place of birth
·         Date of Death (Try to include a month with the year when possible)
·         Place of death
·         Gender

INSTRUCTIONS

Step I: Updating Tree and VCC

·         Open VCC database and the GEDCOM/Tree
·         Put PID numbers as always on the tree for the following people:
o   Vet
o   Spouse of Vet
o   Parents of Vet
o   Child of Vet
o   Spouse of Child
o   Grands
·         If the spouse of the child (parent of a grand) is not on the grid, add him/her to the grid
·         Make sure to update relations on VCC with the second parent for all the grands
·         Do not update or input on the obit screen for the child or his/her spouse
·         Be sure the tree has birth and death info for the child and his/her spouse (parents of grands only)

Step II:  Getting birth, death info
·         Look at hints for the first grand
·         If there is a record with all four bits of data (birth date and place/death date and place), attach the record and move on to the next grand
·         When you attach the record to the tree, make sure you click on the birth and death information so that it shows up under their names on the profile page. 
·         Do not look for death causes, but if the death cert is in the hints, attach it to the tree
·         If you must attach a record from Family Search, make sure the relevant information (birth and death info) is filled in on the tree.  The source does not have to be linked to every bit of data.

Step III: Update Log and Finish up
·         Enter the gender on the log in column H (Make sure you insert and label the new column first)
·         Please put gender in for the child of the vet if and only if s/he has children (i.e. grands).
·         Enter an X, NF, L for birth date and death date as in the past and leave Death Cause blank.  Do not use E as an option anymore (just X).
·         Hit complete on the VCC database when finished with the family


QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS:

Q:  Should I add additional/new grands that are not on the tree to the log, the VCC grid, and to the tree?
A: Yes to all three. Make sure you also update relations on VCC to include both parents for the new grand.


Q: Can I go back to the grid to make sure the tree matches if my tree is missing lots of people?
A:  Yes, look at the grid, use the links if they work, or get them from the hints to make sure your tree matches the grid.


Q:  Do I need to mark my log where I began this new method?
A: No, we will be able to tell where the gender column is marked


Q: Should we type in death cause on the log if we see it?
A: No


Q: Should we still attach Social Security records and WWII draft cards to the tree?
A: No, you do not need to attach these records if you have already attached a record with the necessary birth and death information.


Q:  NEW**Should we still use public family trees for info when we cannot find any other sources for birth or death information? It makes me nervous to add them without adding quality codes and source info like we had on the grid.
A: If we use a public tree for a birth or death date, which does not happen very often, please make a brief note on the profile page for that fact.  For example, click EDIT on the birth fact on timeline, and then in the description box type “from public tree.”


Q:  NEW**What should we do when we need to estimate a death date for a grandchild? When we added info on the grid we were able to make a note to explain the death range. Now that we are only working on the tree, should we add a note? Also, is there a certain way to enter the death range on the tree that would be best?
A: I checked with Coralee and she says she has a way to deal with letters in the date field, so we can put any of the following in for death or birth year if necessary:
·         BEF. 1910
·         BET 1900-1910
·         AFT 1910
·         ABT 1910
If you put in a range, you can also type in a brief note of explanation in the description under that field on the timeline, such as “from brother Edward’s 1963 obituary.”

Q: NEW**Should we use E on the log when there is a death date already on the tree?
A: No.  Do not use E anymore on the log.  Just mark X if there is a date or NF if you cannot find a date, or L if the person is still living. 

Monday, July 20, 2020

CHANGES IN INPUTTING: FOCUS ON TREES INSTEAD OF DATABASE

 

SUMMARY

As of today July 20, 2020, Dora has asked us to change how we collect the data. Finish your current recid the old way and then start the next family with the new instructions below. 

Dora now plans to get data from the GEDCOMS and not from the VCC database. Therefore, we will no longer use the obit screen on the VCC database to collect information.  The tree will provide the data.  We are most interested in the following bits of information for the grands and their parents:

 

·         Date of birth (Try to include a month with the year when possible)

·         Place of birth

·         Date of Death (Try to include a month with the year when possible)

·         Place of death

·         Gender

 

INSTRUCTIONS

 Step I: Updating Tree and VCC

·         Open VCC database and the GEDCOM/Tree

·         Put PID numbers as always on the tree for the following people:

o   Vet

o   Spouse of Vet

o   Parents of Vet?

o   Child of Vet

o   Spouse of Child

o   Grands

·         If the spouse of the child (parent of a grand) is not on the grid, add him/her to the grid

·         Make sure to update relations on VCC with the second parent for all the grands

·         Do not update or input on the obit screen for the child or his/her spouse

·         Be sure the tree has birth and death info for the child and his/her spouse (parents of grands only)

 

Step II:  Getting birth, death info

·         Look at hints for the first grand

·         If there is a record with all four bits of data (birth date and place/death date and place), attach the record and move on to the next grand

·         When you attach the record to the tree, make sure you click on the birth and death information so that it shows up under their names on the profile page.  

·         Do not look for death causes, but if the death cert is in the hints, attach it to the tree

·         If you must attach a record from Family Search, make sure the relevant information (birth and death info) is filled in on the tree.  The source does not have to be linked to every bit of data.

 

Step III: Update Log and Finish up

·         Enter the gender on the log in column H (Make sure you insert and label the new column first)

·         Enter an X, NF, L or E for birth date and death date as in the past and leave Death Cause blank

·         Hit complete on the VCC database when finished with the family

 

 

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS:

 

Q:  Should I add additional/new grands that are not on the tree to the log, the VCC grid, and to the tree?

A: Yes to all three. Make sure you also update relations on VCC to include both parents for the new grand.

 

Q: Can I go back to the grid to make sure the tree matches if my tree is missing lots of people?

A:  Yes, look at the grid, use the links if they work, or get them from the hints to make sure your tree matches the grid.

 

Q:  Do I need to mark my log where I began this new method?

A: No, we will be able to tell where the gender column is marked

 

Q: Should we type in death cause on the log if we see it?

A: No

 

Q: Should we still attach Social Security records and WWII draft cards to the tree?

A: No, you do not need to attach these records if you have already attached a record with the necessary birth and death information.


Friday, June 26, 2020

Inputting changes for the Grandchildren sample

Here are Sandy's notes from our meeting yesterday. We will be dividing the Grandchildren sample into parts A and B. We will be collecting less data in sample B to speed up our data collection. We must speed up our collection, so Dora can use our data to apply for a new grant. So we can all keep our jobs. Let me know if you have questions.


Here is Dora’s exact directive followed by notes from our meeting:

Greats would have to be a new grant, ditto linkage to 1930 and 1940 so I would favor:

·         Finishing up anything in progress done in the old way and calling it sample A
·         Have all necessary files downloaded as sample A and put up on Box as sample A.
·         Start sample B by skipping inputting 1930 and 1940 and the mothers of the greats.


Here is what we decided on the call:

Finish the OLD way for Sample A

1. Finish the Soldier and family that you are currently working on, continuing the way we’ve always done it (the OLD way). 

2. All of the soldiers we have done so far under grands will be packaged as Sample A and will include the following:
a.       1930 and 1940
b.      Obits for the mothers of the great grandsons in the male line

3. Make a note on your input log after you finish your current person to show Heather where the the OLD ends (Sample A) and the NEW begins (for Sample B). 

4. Send you Input Log and completed GEDCOMS to Heather.

The NEW Method for SAMPLE B

1. Do not do input any 1930 and 1940 info on the obit screens for anyone

2. Do not add mothers of the male line great grandsons to the grid or do obits for them

3. Do not enter any great grandsons on the tree by hand.  It is ok to attach them to the tree if they are mentioned and save automatically from a document you are attaching to the grand. 

4. Do not look for great grandsons or great grandsons’ death dates/living information. 

5. Do not put living great grandsons on your spreadsheet

6. Do not try to attach every available record to the tree

7. Look at hints and find the following:
a.       A good source for death
b.      A record with the social security number (be sure to input the number on the obit screen
c.       A record with a good birth date (Do not spend a lot time hunting for an actual birth record)
d.      Attach the WWII draft card to the tree if it is available.

8. For the CHILD of the vet, continue to update the OBIT as always by inputting the child’ name, gender, spouse, birth date and any new death cause you find. Do not spend more than a minute or two on this.

9. Continue to Input the obit for the spouse of the child.  Do not spend much time on this

10. Try to get keep the tree in order but do not be overly fussy (making all the last names spelled the same, making sure maiden names are always used, etc)

Thursday, May 21, 2020

Grandchildren progress report - May 20

Here is our progress on the Grandchildren sample as of yesterday, May 20, 2020.

Grandchildren Sample
POW
Non-POW
Total
Total RecIds Completed
385
475
860
RecIds Completed in the Last Week
14
25
39
% Sample Completed
--
--
30.43
Total Grandchildren (including new)
--
--
33781
New Grandchildren Added
532
715
1247
Total Grandchildren Completed
4796
5940
10736
% Grandchildren in Database Completed
--
--
31.78
% Grandchildren Completed of 26,475
(as promised in grant)
--
--
40.55
Birth Dates Added
4769
5866
10635
Death Dates Added
4176
5310
9486
Death Causes Added
829
1108
1937
Found 1930
2055
2231
4286
Found 1940
2628
3211
5839
Living Grandchildren
64
85
149
New Living Male-line Great Grandsons Found
131
340
471
New Living Male Greats Found in Last Week
0
17
17
Child Death Causes Added
--
--
125

Total sample = 2826



Please note that I added an extra row to the table showing what percent of the promised grandchildren we've completed. I thought this was a more encouraging number than the percent of grandchildren in the database that we've completed.